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The developer and I are a bit stumped as we've not seen the error before. It's not indicating anything very helpful yet is it? Was hoping your logs would show a bit more information. Please do let me know what you find out if you're able to figure out at all what's going on. A few thoughts and ideas. If you have not already done so, try a fresh install, especially if you do any customization, and feel free to make a backup of your config so that you can go back and try to piece out what might be going on. Also check versions on everything including your oxide or carbon versions. What map are you using? I don't very likely think it is a map issue but just in case it could be. Maybe there is some customization added to the monument, or something along those lines. It would also be worth testing the plugin with all unnecessary plugins unloaded, just testing the map with the event and core plugin. Maybe there is something going on with interaction from another plugin. Keep me posted on any new findings or if you just end up stumped.
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Happy to hear it @RAYCON thank you for the update!
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First time seeing this error, can you confirm that your oxide/carbon is up to date? When you reload the plugin do you get any errors at all? Is the server hosted or do you host it yourself? If it is hosted have you asked your host about the error? Is this error showing up in console or is it showing up client side? Take a look at your server logs to see if you can get more detailed information with the error if it is appearing server side.
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Confirm manually that carbon is the most up to date version in case there is any problem with the update process during restarts. Try removing the configuration file, and loading the plugin again so that it will create a new fresh configuration, and let me know if the error persists. If you have the ability to test this without other plugins present this would help to confirm or deny if another plugin may be causing the interaction and error. Do you have the seed number for the map in case the map needs to be tested? How many supermarket monuments are there on the map?
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Can you confirm a couple things @RAYCON? Can you confirm first that your carbon is updated? What map are you using? Is it a custom map? If yes, what is the map? If no, what is the map seed and size? Also, was this with the default configuration that you are trying to run the event, or have you made any changes and customization?
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Please create a new support request @Covfefe this has been closed for months and the original creator will get updates and pings for responses. I understand that you may have replied here because it is about the same plugin but to keep different issues separated and to avoid pinging someone who's ticket has been closed for months please create a new request if you have follow up questions or requests. As to your question I don't know what you mean as there is nothing special about this plugin regarding player deaths. The only suggestion I can give with so little context is to ensure that heavy scientists are included in the configuration for the plugin, because that is the base NPC used for all NpcSpawn NPCs. The configuration for that plugin is going to control what does or doesn't appear though so this is really a question for DeathNotes to be honest if the answer isn't something simple like just adding heavy scientists because they weren't already in the config..
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Nothing at all to apologize for @Jack if anything I'm actually sorry I didn't get back to you sooner as well. Really appreciate the updates and the feedback though and really glad to hear it's sorted! Definitely sounds like good and thorough feedback for the developer so props for doing some diligence in your testing and sorting out the issue to give them some really good feedback, maybe it's something they will be willing to address in a future update. Thanks again for letting us know and glad you have this running properly now. Have fun with it!
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One way to specifically address this part of the question, would be to edit the NPC configuration and to decrease their sense range so that they are not sensing or seeing people further away. There are a few ways you can configure NPCs to be less aggressive and slower to notice players. In regards to this part of the question there is a separate plugin called PveMode that was created after many of the events such as this one already existed. It was created to add additional options for servers to lock damage and looting of an event under certain circumstances. You can completely configure this as desired so you could make ownership very easy to obtain, and then you could block targeting or damage to and from the event within these configuration options. They just require PveMode to work so depending on if you own it, or if you want it, the first option should be helpful.
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They should not be getting removed by BetterNpc in this instance, if you have it configured as above and everything has been freshly loaded. If it is then yes wait to hear back from the other developer. They would need to troubleshoot with you the reason that those NPCs are not showing up with BetterNpc present. Of course if there seems to be any issue you are the developer can let us know what you find. Hopefully implementing the fixes suggested using the API from the Description will sort things out.
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One way to specifically address this part of the question, would be to edit the NPC configuration and to decrease their sense range so that they are not sensing or seeing people further away. There are a few ways you can configure NPCs to be less aggressive and slower to notice players. In regards to this part of the question there is a separate plugin called PveMode that was created after many of the events such as this one already existed. It was created to add additional options for servers to lock damage and looting of an event under certain circumstances. You can completely configure this as desired so you could make ownership very easy to obtain, and then you could block targeting or damage to and from the event within these configuration options. They just require PveMode to work so depending on if you own it, or if you want it, the first option should be helpful. -
Thank you for jumping into the Mad Mapper Discord @Et3rn47 glad we could sort this out! For reference if anyone comes across a similar error, unload the plugin, remove your data file, and load the plugin back onto the server. Should clear things right up!
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Hiya @Jack hopefully I can help out with this and if nothing else clear things up so that you can get a resolution sooner rather than later. Firstly I want to mention that there is an option in BetterNpc to remove or not to remove other NPCs in the area. Remove other NPCs? [true/false] – It deletes the standard NPCs inside the limits of this monument So there is one option, a short term fix if nothing else as this is likely set to true for you at the moment and at that location. The only thing you may run into when setting this to false is you'll get a mix of default NPC, BetterNpc NPCs, and when the event runs you'll have those NPCs as well. If that's not an issue though then maybe this solves the issue. As far as with the AirfieldEvent plugin you would need to ask that the Developer use the API available in the plugin description to remove BetterNpc NPCs during the event, and spawn them back in when the event ends. I'll share that text here for reference. API void DestroyController(string name) – It destroys the place of appearance NPC with the name {name} void CreateController(string name) – It creates the place of appearance NPC with the name {name} These APIs can be used with standard monuments, custom monuments (NPC locations) and roads. The name of this monument is in standard monuments {name}. It is the name of the file in the Custom and Road folder in custom monuments and roads They can use this API to have the plugin compatible with BetterNpc and to fully avoid this issue, and to have everything working in unison properly.
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Check the health of the wall next to it as well. You are probably seeing the splash damage to a wall nearby, or even the floor or roof there. -
Always recommended to check update notes in case any important changes are made that could affect how you use the plugin, big config changes especially. But hey we are all human, no worries @MrLiquid.
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ZombieHorde and Better NPC (Interaction?)
Jbird replied to Beaverthelieber's Support Request in Support
Are they not attacking them or just not damaging them @Beaverthelieber? Do you use any other plugins that allow or control NPCs? Or maybe you have TruePVE and can make sure heavy scientists are added to the NPCs group? Normally that's all you'd need to change. But we can try to sort out what's stopping them in this case. -
You are welcome, feel free to browse around a bit there are others might even be free HP bar plugins that's just my favorite and the dev is responsive. Others might have it as well but I really like that it has HP bars for a lot more than just NPCs. I fixed the link too seemed like the link ended up null for some reason so the link I shared should work now if you didn't already find it by name.
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There is nothing in the Description about a health bar @US Apocalypse. But there are plugins that will add them. This is the one I recommend though there are at least a few others as well. Advanced Hit Bar This can add hit bars for not only NPC but other items in the game as well such as structures Bradley and Patrol Helicopter.
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The event plugins that take place on a monument need the Facepunch monument prefab to be able to find the location and take place there. So custom monuments even if they are very similar or broken down versions of the monuments, the plugin is not going to be able to find them since the monument isn't there. This is how the event is able to work automatically and at an accurate location. The only way this works is if it is a Junkyard monument with custom stuff added to it, as long as it's still the default prefab it won't work. -
ZombieHorde and Better NPC (Interaction?)
Jbird replied to Beaverthelieber's Support Request in Support
Open up the NpcSpawn.cs file, the plugin file for NpcSpawn. Look for this or search for it CTRL+F CanTargetOtherNpc Change from false to true. Then NpcSpawn NPCs will target and fight other NPCs. -
No it's alright I just wanted to be sure I understood fully what was happening. So it seems like the Bosses are engaging these NPCs but neither NPC is actually doing damage to the other if I am understanding correctly, in this instance. I wonder if perhaps you have a TruePVE setting that is blocking this damage? If I am not mistaken this should otherwise work as you are expecting and is just my initial question in regards to the fact that they do not. But what is most odd would simply be that it sounds to be working in other instances, so then I am wondering if it has anything to do with the zombie NPCs specifically. What base type is this NPC, and is it a normal NPC with a zombie skin to wear, or something else? Any console errors you can find around this, or maybe even video might be helpful. If you are in the Mad Mapper Discord please feel free to create a ticket and give us any information you have on this instance. NPCs vs players is the main intent and biggest concern so thank you for confirming that there is no issue there, as it is the most important function they have. It is a bit interesting that they seem to have some difficulty here too fighting amongst themselves but that is NPCs for you. I am always on the lookout for AI to start becoming too smart, so maybe it is still best for us as a human race that they are dumb at times. Hopefully it is not just a ruse. 😉- 429 comments
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This is nothing to apologize for. That does sound like it was the problem though and it is a good issue to know about for this and other plugins that use custom items that are added to loot tables, if this plugin is being used. Thank you for confirming the issue is resolved and for the additional information as well.
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You are welcome. If you see it again, find out more about it, and if it is something you'd like to see the ability added, let us know. But this should be in regards to Bradley tanks being able to target NPCs. -
No disappointment at all. I used to run into things like this all of the time. I always go through a new configuration and make several changes that I think that I want. And I would learn at times that I didn't fully understand what I was changing or something to that effect. It's no problem at all. Simply changing this back to false will remove the error for you. Thank you for the reply.
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Also @Dead Nasty if you do not use BradleyTiers and only use BradleyDrops we can look further into this as well. I think maybe it could be the same or related or maybe in that instance it is actually part of the plugin code instead of being a config option. I see your errors is from BradleyDrops instead so maybe for that instance more might need to be looked into and addressed. But just collecting all the information we can before making any changes. I did not see a similar option in the default config shown in the Description but maybe it has been added and does not show or maybe I missed something.
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So there is a config option in BradleyTiers that you have set to true and this causes the conflict error. "Bradley Tiers can interact with NPC": false You can set this to false in BradleyTiers config to align this with NpcSpawn logic and to get rid of the error. If there is a reason that you want this function to be allowed, if you can give some context to how you would use this, and what the importance is, the developer and I are curious. He has already indicated if there is desire for this to be allowed that he will look further into it and address the request. We just want to know the the intent and importance to understand it well.