Water Patrol 1.0.8

19 minutes ago, DodgeMan said:

I have been having this on 3 different server attempts. I deployed one put this plugin with BetterNpc and a few others on. fps went down the drain from 168 to 40. The minute I unload waterpatrol fps increases back to where it was. Ive had to just dump this plugin. not happy about it either. The other issue I have, is the boats will spawn with NPC's and then several hours later the boats are empty and new boats with NPCs wont spawn. Apparently im the only one this is happening to............ I have done a new server deploy with only 5 plugins. BetterNpc, WaterPatrol, SupermarketEvent, Backpacks and BackpackButtons.. Still same thing. I even ran just WaterPatrol by its self nothing else.. Was ok for about 5 hours and right around 6 hour mark fps went down to 9 and no boats spawned with npcs, all boats that were currently out were empty.

I understand, when Facepunch updated the water system it affected this plugin greatly. Before that update it really was not a performance issue unless customers were increasing the amount of boats by a large amount. I will say that most people have had success since the update with just reducing the amount of boats between the separate presets, and the effect on the server is lessened. There is also the ability to set specific spawn points for the boats to be able to reduce the number but have boats spawning in desired places to guard places like Oil Rig.

As far as the disappearing NPCs you are the 2nd person to report this. I have added this to our notes and will make sure the developer knows about your testing and reports and it will be addressed as soon as possible. Thank you for doing the additional testing to try to narrow down other interactions or issues that could be causing this to happen. If you would like to feel free to join the Mad Mapper Discord and create a ticket there to discuss further and see what can be done short term while this is looked into.

Also @DodgeMan can you let me know what type of system you are using like the machine and OS this is running on, as well as what you are using between oxide and carbon and your current version? Just want to collect some data for our notes.

On 2/28/2024 at 12:38 PM, DodgeMan said:

I have been having this on 3 different server attempts. I deployed one put this plugin with BetterNpc and a few others on. fps went down the drain from 168 to 40. The minute I unload waterpatrol fps increases back to where it was. Ive had to just dump this plugin. not happy about it either. The other issue I have, is the boats will spawn with NPC's and then several hours later the boats are empty and new boats with NPCs wont spawn. Apparently im the only one this is happening to............ I have done a new server deploy with only 5 plugins. BetterNpc, WaterPatrol, SupermarketEvent, Backpacks and BackpackButtons.. Still same thing. I even ran just WaterPatrol by its self nothing else.. Was ok for about 5 hours and right around 6 hour mark fps went down to 9 and no boats spawned with npcs, all boats that were currently out were empty.

 

Yeah, almost identical experience for me. This plugin has always been a big hit to performance but got worse sometime before the Rust water update, which then hurt performance even more. I still ran it on some maps for a while afterwards but that huge fps hit to single digits after some random amount of time made it unusable. Unfortunate -- it was a neat idea for a plugin and fun when it worked.

On 2/28/2024 at 11:08 AM, Jbird said:

Also @DodgeMan can you let me know what type of system you are using like the machine and OS this is running on, as well as what you are using between oxide and carbon and your current version? Just want to collect some data for our notes.

Didn't see that you had responded I apologize. I happen to see this like a blind man. HP Dl380 Gen 10 and a Gen 9, The gen 10 has 2x  8268 (2.9ghz 24 cores) platinum CPUs with 768gbram, SAS SSD, running windows server 2022, the  gen 9 has 128gb, 2x e5-2680 V4's 14 cores, 2.4ghz, SAS SSD, Windows 2019. Little slower, but I still get around 200 fps depending on number of plugins and players. So I keep it balanced.

Both machines I have had the issue on. As well as my actual computer I play on. i9-12900kf, 64gb ram, NVME SSD's (like every drive in my system are SSD and there are 6 of them, 2 of which are NVME). This runs Windows 11 pro. I have been tempted to move my game server to linux as I am tired of Windows. Linux is just a far better OS. With me not having hands on my server at all times since one of them is colocated, It was easier for me to just drop windows on it and use for other things as well. Additionally I have tested it on other computers I have here in my home as well with same outcome. Very similar spcs. I9-11900k, 64gb win 11 pro. i7-6700k 64gb win 10 pro. All computers have SSD, Who uses HDD any more haha.

The plugin is remarkable, I just cant find where my problem is at with this. I am completely lost as to what it could be.

On 3/11/2024 at 3:25 AM, BB1984 said:

Yeah, almost identical experience for me. This plugin has always been a big hit to performance but got worse sometime before the Rust water update, which then hurt performance even more. I still ran it on some maps for a while afterwards but that huge fps hit to single digits after some random amount of time made it unusable. Unfortunate -- it was a neat idea for a plugin and fun when it worked.

Yeah originally it was mostly only concerning at all if people were putting large numbers of boats into the config. After that damned update it really hurt the performance considerably.

If you ever wanted to jump into the Mad Mapper ticket we could dig into the issue a bit with you to find out what happens after a certain number of time. I am growing suspicious that some plugin is interfering at some point. But regardless we always want to help if we can.

23 hours ago, DodgeMan said:

Didn't see that you had responded I apologize. I happen to see this like a blind man. HP Dl380 Gen 10 and a Gen 9, The gen 10 has 2x  8268 (2.9ghz 24 cores) platinum CPUs with 768gbram, SAS SSD, running windows server 2022, the  gen 9 has 128gb, 2x e5-2680 V4's 14 cores, 2.4ghz, SAS SSD, Windows 2019. Little slower, but I still get around 200 fps depending on number of plugins and players. So I keep it balanced.

Both machines I have had the issue on. As well as my actual computer I play on. i9-12900kf, 64gb ram, NVME SSD's (like every drive in my system are SSD and there are 6 of them, 2 of which are NVME). This runs Windows 11 pro. I have been tempted to move my game server to linux as I am tired of Windows. Linux is just a far better OS. With me not having hands on my server at all times since one of them is colocated, It was easier for me to just drop windows on it and use for other things as well. Additionally I have tested it on other computers I have here in my home as well with same outcome. Very similar spcs. I9-11900k, 64gb win 11 pro. i7-6700k 64gb win 10 pro. All computers have SSD, Who uses HDD any more haha.

The plugin is remarkable, I just cant find where my problem is at with this. I am completely lost as to what it could be.

Have a sneaking suspicion that it could be some plugin that interferes after some time. Especially just because there it is a bit limited as far as feedback beyond the performance and getting into the issue where it drops after awhile. Appreciate the feedback and follow ups regardless.

El 27/09/2022 a las 1:33 a.m., Covfefe dijo:

El fps del servidor vuelve a los dos dígitos con solo 1-2 barcos en la configuración De todos modos, ¿puede optimizar el rendimiento? Creo que es porque cada npc cuenta como un jugador en movimiento. ¿Puedes dejarlos inactivos hasta que estén lo suficientemente cerca?

Hola, lograste resolver esto. Lo compré hace unos días y me pasa lo mismo en cuanto activo el plugin, los fps del servidor caen en picado y por mucho que lo reduzco, las naves no suben, y tengo que desactivarlo por completo

On 6/28/2024 at 3:39 PM, bigdevil83 said:

Hola, lograste resolver esto. Lo compré hace unos días y me pasa lo mismo en cuanto activo el plugin, los fps del servidor caen en picado y por mucho que lo reduzco, las naves no suben, y tengo que desactivarlo por completo

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Hello, you managed to solve this. I bought it a few days ago and the same thing happens to me as soon as I activate the plugin, the server fps plummets and no matter how much I reduce it, the ships do not go up, and I have to deactivate it completely

Reduce the number of active boats for each preset, there are a few by default at least. See if you can find a lower number that works better.

You can also use custom locations if you would like to see them guard specific areas. This helps be able to reduce the number but have them in impactful and important spots.

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Reduce el número de barcos activos para cada preset, al menos hay algunos por defecto. Vea si puede encontrar un número más bajo que funcione mejor.

También puede utilizar ubicaciones personalizadas si desea que protejan áreas específicas. Esto ayuda a poder reducir el número pero tenerlos en lugares importantes y de impacto.

1 hour ago, Jbird said:

 

Reduce the number of active boats for each preset, there are a few by default at least. See if you can find a lower number that works better.

You can also use custom locations if you would like to see them guard specific areas. This helps be able to reduce the number but have them in impactful and important spots.

 

I already reduced it to 2 and 3 ships in the config but as soon as I activate the plugin the fps continue to plummet

21 hours ago, bigdevil83 said:

I already reduced it to 2 and 3 ships in the config but as soon as I activate the plugin the fps continue to plummet

I understand, if you have any way to increase the stats of your server you might not have the issue but otherwise we understand and apologize about the inconvenience. The water update really had a huge impact on the plugin. If you want you can jump into the Mad Mapper Discord and tag me in a ticket if you want to discuss a few things.

On 7/2/2024 at 10:08 PM, bigdevil83 said:

I already reduced it to 2 and 3 ships in the config but as soon as I activate the plugin the fps continue to plummet

Same here. 

Purchased the plugin, used 0 times, as it destroys almost our basic server.

On 7/21/2024 at 11:16 AM, CsaszyKJ said:

Same here. 

Purchased the plugin, used 0 times, as it destroys almost our basic server.

It is very unfortunate that the water update impacted the plugin so much as it was really fun and only got to be enjoyed for a short time before the update really screwed it up.

If you like anything else in KpucTaJl's library go to the Mad Mapper Discord and create a ticket. Goes for anyone with this issue. The developer is usually willing to offer a discount on another title due to the issue the plugin has after that update.

41 minutes ago, Jbird said:

It is very unfortunate that the water update impacted the plugin so much as it was really fun and only got to be enjoyed for a short time before the update really screwed it up.

If you like anything else in KpucTaJl's library go to the Mad Mapper Discord and create a ticket. Goes for anyone with this issue. The developer is usually willing to offer a discount on another title due to the issue the plugin has after that update.

This looks insanely chitty considering he is still selling this plugin.
Rust mod community is shooting itself in the foot. 

1 minute ago, Chit Show said:

This looks insanely chitty considering he is still selling this plugin.
Rust mod community is shooting itself in the foot. 

The plugin still works and runs fine on high end machines.

How "high end"?

Are you seriously going to consider a 100+ sfps drop "OK"?

2 minutes ago, Chit Show said:

How "high end"?

Are you serious going to consider a 100+ fps drop "OK"?

I'm not going to go back and forth you're entitled to your opinion. I don't know where I said anything was 'okay' but the plugin was fine before Facepunch came out with a huge update that affected it. Not sure what else can be said or how I can explain it more clearly and plainly.

Just minutes ago I told you that you can reach out to the developer if you're server is that affected and you'd like to discuss options. Otherwise not much else other than to debate back and forth and I'm not going to do that. If you feel that strongly that's fine but I am here to support and answer questions otherwise.

Stop selling it. It's that simple.

Get an attitude if you want. You know it's wrong.
This is exactly how you lose trust between server owners & plugin developers.

Make me out to be the bad guy when you're clearly scamming people at this point. I have zero respect for you.

-Grumbles @lone

11 minutes ago, Chit Show said:

Stop selling it. It's that simple.

It works. I am not selling it either I just provide support.

As I already said you're entitled to your opinion but I've already explained that it works. It is actually THAT simple.

Not here for your respect, didn't expect or ask for it. But if you're quite done now leave the discussion for people that have questions. Otherwise you have already been offered to reach out to the DEVELOPER to discuss further.

Scammer.

How many months did you spend sending server owners running through hoops when YOU KNEW the plugin was borked?
How convenient the developer has you to do this for him while he continues to sell the plugin.

That's a SCAM.

On 8/1/2024 at 11:24 PM, Chit Show said:

How many months did you spend sending server owners running through hoops when YOU KNEW the plugin was borked?
How convenient the developer has you to do this for him while he continues to sell the plugin.

Well he doesn't speak English, but think what you will you obviously have a very strong opinion and I don't care to waste my time explaining things when you're going to arrive at the same conclusion.

You have three options. Unload the plugin, get a better machine, or reach out to the developer because I'm pretty sure I've said once if not more than once that the developer is willing to offer discounts on other products due to some people not being able to run the plugin on their server without a big performance impact.

If you would like to go to the Mad Mapper Discord or reach out to the developer directly nobody is stopping you, and I've encouraged it. He can show you how low the impact is on a better machine. If all you want is to repeat your opinion though I will not continue to go back and forth with you. I've been completely transparent but you are welcome to think and feel the way you do so I'll leave it at that. I hope you will too or will reach out if you really care about any kind of resolution.

Anyone know what to change in config to Dave respurces? My server was running on 8 fps with this plugin

35 minutes ago, Tobbey said:

Anyone know what to change in config to Dave respurces? My server was running on 8 fps with this plugin

I am assuming you want to save resources, I don't know how to Dave them.

If you go through the config there are several boat configurations, I think there are at least about 3 in there. You can reduce all of the min max numbers or if you are comfortable you can even delete some of the presets from the configuration and use more limited numbers.

There was a large update to the water system by Facepunch quite some time ago that unfortunately had a big impact on this plugin and the resource impact it has on servers.

20 hours ago, Jbird said:

I am assuming you want to save resources, I don't know how to Dave them.

If you go through the config there are several boat configurations, I think there are at least about 3 in there. You can reduce all of the min max numbers or if you are comfortable you can even delete some of the presets from the configuration and use more limited numbers.

There was a large update to the water system by Facepunch quite some time ago that unfortunately had a big impact on this plugin and the resource impact it has on servers.

Can ypu share a cpnfig that has some presets deleted? 

Just now, Tobbey said:

Can ypu share a cpnfig that has some presets deleted?

15 minutes ago, Tobbey said:

Can ypu share a cpnfig that has some presets deleted? 

Join our Discord and create a ticket there. Tag KpucTaJl and myself in the ticket and I will help you out.

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