Npc Spawn 3.2.4

and whats funny is its almost time for forch wipe and rust update again and in this time theres no real feedback from @KpucTaJl its only @aimacaktrying to keep the peace. but at the end we server owners sitting here dont know what happening with npc spawn only know that loot manager is no longer going to be there. we have taken the time to try and get the loot manager working and i think most is still trying or has given up on trying to get it to work with their current setup

2 hours ago, ZA_Machete said:

and whats funny is its almost time for forch wipe and rust update again and in this time theres no real feedback from @KpucTaJl its only @aimacaktrying to keep the peace. but at the end we server owners sitting here dont know what happening with npc spawn only know that loot manager is no longer going to be there. we have taken the time to try and get the loot manager working and i think most is still trying or has given up on trying to get it to work with their current setup

That's why there's no feedback from KpucTaJI, because there's me) What exactly do you need feedback about? My information above about the upcoming NpcSpawn update is relevant, and it is related to the removal of Loot Manager, which will happen sooner or later. If you need any help or answers, you can ask me.

We had issues getting NPC Spawn to even work correctly on our server.  We pulled all plugins with that dependency.  We'll revisit this after you guys get your act together.  But, these people have a point.  If you are going to make a move where we have to have special directions to install this that folder before we install this into this folder and run an update to erase the orig .cs before add the new one.  I'm not even sure I followed the directions as I should have, but it matters not to me, I'm just the guy that configures these plugins, but the guy that paid for them is pretty pissed.  We are just going to wait and see.

1 hour ago, Chillzone - PvE said:

You talk a lot for someone that so-called doesn’t have a dog in this fight. 
 

you say you’re just a server owner as well, but you’re in these comments everyday all day long boot licking. 
 

I’m not speaking to you. I didn’t buy your plugin(s).

@KpucTaJl respond
 

 

How do you know anything about me to assert anything?
Where have you seen any sucking up?
What prevents me from being the server owner and moderator/support service (whichever you prefer) of KpucTaJI plugins?
Then why are you making any comments to me and responding to my message if you're not talking to me?

Before asking for an answer, one usually asks a question.
If you want to contact KpucTaJI, write to him in Discord private messages, or in his chat on the discord server - Mad Mappers.

2 hours ago, Papa Bear said:

We had issues getting NPC Spawn to even work correctly on our server.  We pulled all plugins with that dependency.  We'll revisit this after you guys get your act together.  But, these people have a point.  If you are going to make a move where we have to have special directions to install this that folder before we install this into this folder and run an update to erase the orig .cs before add the new one.  I'm not even sure I followed the directions as I should have, but it matters not to me, I'm just the guy that configures these plugins, but the guy that paid for them is pretty pissed.  We are just going to wait and see.

Many people have updated and migrated all their backups, I have helped many with this, why don't you want to ask for help with this if you have any difficulties?

23 minutes ago, aimacak said:

How do you know anything about me to assert anything?
Where have you seen any sucking up?
What prevents me from being the server owner and moderator/support service (whichever you prefer) of KpucTaJI plugins?
Then why are you making any comments to me and responding to my message if you're not talking to me?

Before asking for an answer, one usually asks a question.
If you want to contact KpucTaJI, write to him in Discord private messages, or in his chat on the discord server - Mad Mappers.

Oh that was me. I'm calling it how I see it. 

4 hours ago, aimacak said:

That's why there's no feedback from KpucTaJI, because there's me) What exactly do you need feedback about? My information above about the upcoming NpcSpawn update is relevant, and it is related to the removal of Loot Manager, which will happen sooner or later. If you need any help or answers, you can ask me.

Last time I ever buy a Kpuc plugin.  Dev cant even be bothered to engage with his customers on the site where he makes his money.

1 hour ago, Stark said:

 

Oh that was me. I'm calling it how I see it. 

33 minutes ago, Rockefeller said:

Hey aimacak when you get Kpuc's **** out of your mouth maybe you can **** mine.

With this perception of what is happening around you, I don't see a single reason to try to convince you of this, I just wish you all the best 

8 minutes ago, aimacak said:

With this perception of what is happening around you, I don't see a single reason to try to convince you of this, I just wish you all the best 

Why would you need to convince me?  Youre not the plugin developer.  I did not pay you.  Its got nothing to do with you.  Mind your business.

1 minute ago, Rockefeller said:

Why would you need to convince me?  Youre not the plugin developer.  I did not pay you.  Its got nothing to do with you.  Mind your business.

I wrote above how it concerns me, and you write only about the genitals and the requirement from KpucTaJI to answer something, although you have not asked any questions. It's amazing.

I am so tired of having to update this plugin every other day.  what gives here??

Man, I have bought the some of the plug ins as well. I completely understand the frustration I really do.  Better Npc  was one of the most trouble free and easiest to use plugins I have but really kind of has become more of a hassle than its worth.  However , No point in attacking the guy trying to help. Maybe people should consider the dev may be choosing to spend his time trying to get it sorted and asked aimacak to help. I have no idea what is going on but I do know all I have seen from aimacak is trying to help people and answer questions.  Seriously no point in attacking and disrespecting this person its not going to fix the current state of all this. I am certainly not defending the changes In fact I hate the changes but to attack the person trying to help is counter productive.  

I just delete everything and reinstall fresh every time.  Seems to work, who knows. lol

18 minutes ago, LoneWolf71 said:

I just delete everything and reinstall fresh every time.  Seems to work, who knows. lol

28 minutes ago, sociallyobscure said:

Man, I have bought the some of the plug ins as well. I completely understand the frustration I really do.  Better Npc  was one of the most trouble free and easiest to use plugins I have but really kind of has become more of a hassle than its worth.  However , No point in attacking the guy trying to help. Maybe people should consider the dev may be choosing to spend his time trying to get it sorted and asked aimacak to help. I have no idea what is going on but I do know all I have seen from aimacak is trying to help people and answer questions.  Seriously no point in attacking and disrespecting this person its not going to fix the current state of all this. I am certainly not defending the changes In fact I hate the changes but to attack the person trying to help is counter productive.  

Thank you for your support, as I mentioned above, I am a moderator / KpucTaJI support service, I am also listed in the plugins, I also demonstrated this in previous posts, just in case, I will say that all subsequent updates after the major update only mean replacing the *.cs file, you do not need to use Updater anymore, nor in NpcSpawn, nor in BetterNpc, you can correct your coordinates using the ShowFailedNavMesh command, it will indicate problems, if any. They are also aimed at improving the plugin itself out of the box so that new users will face fewer problems when they first install it. I am currently trying to reconfigure the NPC on my server, but it takes time to fix some problems and help other users, all the problems that have been detected have been fixed, and KpucTaJI is also working on a forced update due to the discontinued LootManager. For my part, I cannot mention any inconvenient and terrible moments in the new version of the plugin, and if everything was set up before the update, then all the more, everything was transferred correctly, I just decided to redo everything due to the new features and parameters of the NPC.

I would be grateful if you could share exactly why you like this plugin less after the update than before.

Добрый день.небольшой отзыв.

1.послк обновления и перенос пресетов с BetterNPC

Характеристики перенеслись коректно, но есть проблема в том, что они все переименовались в имена с коробкой.

2.После обновления НПС стали стрелять без пауз. 

3. До обновления я много времени возвращал на изменение НПС. По какой-то причине НПС с «пистолетом-полуавтоматом» имеют имболансное значение урона. При поиске информации на различных форумах я не единственный, кто с таким сталкивался.

4.маленький вопрос. Зачем иметь два плагина с вариациями языков, загружать руверсию и проблемы с темой, связанные с пользовательским интерфейсом на английском языке, и каждый элемент описания тоже на английском языке. Не удобно ну и не логично. Для меня это критично. Возможно другим и так норм.

PS: жду и надеюсь на дальнейшее развитие. Надеюсь, будет обратная совместимость с другими плагинами, такими как BetterNPC, которые используют спавн NPC.

Стало очень хорошо настроены настройки НПС. Если будет соответствие, это будет отлично, не нужно будет открывать более 10 файлов .json для настройки.

Ну и держитесь там. Как я понял, не все комьюнити восприняли адекватно новый путь развития Madmappers.

Can we get some context of the "Mandatory update"

2 hours ago, aimacak said:

Thank you for your support, as I mentioned above, I am a moderator / KpucTaJI support service, I am also listed in the plugins, I also demonstrated this in previous posts, just in case, I will say that all subsequent updates after the major update only mean replacing the *.cs file, you do not need to use Updater anymore, nor in NpcSpawn, nor in BetterNpc, you can correct your coordinates using the ShowFailedNavMesh command, it will indicate problems, if any. They are also aimed at improving the plugin itself out of the box so that new users will face fewer problems when they first install it. I am currently trying to reconfigure the NPC on my server, but it takes time to fix some problems and help other users, all the problems that have been detected have been fixed, and KpucTaJI is also working on a forced update due to the discontinued LootManager. For my part, I cannot mention any inconvenient and terrible moments in the new version of the plugin, and if everything was set up before the update, then all the more, everything was transferred correctly, I just decided to redo everything due to the new features and parameters of the NPC.

I would be grateful if you could share exactly why you like this plugin less after the update than before.

Thanks, I didn't know we needed to config it, I figured it just does its thing with all the events I have.  Is there more I should do?  And what happens when Adem takes Lootmanager away?  Tnx

1 hour ago, BUGAGA said:

Добрый день.небольшой отзыв.

1.послк обновления и перенос пресетов с BetterNPC

Характеристики перенеслись коректно, но есть проблема в том, что они все переименовались в имена с коробкой.

2.После обновления НПС стали стрелять без пауз. 

3. До обновления я много времени возвращал на изменение НПС. По какой-то причине НПС с «пистолетом-полуавтоматом» имеют имболансное значение урона. При поиске информации на различных форумах я не единственный, кто с таким сталкивался.

4.маленький вопрос. Зачем иметь два плагина с вариациями языков, загружать руверсию и проблемы с темой, связанные с пользовательским интерфейсом на английском языке, и каждый элемент описания тоже на английском языке. Не удобно ну и не логично. Для меня это критично. Возможно другим и так норм.

PS: жду и надеюсь на дальнейшее развитие. Надеюсь, будет обратная совместимость с другими плагинами, такими как BetterNPC, которые используют спавн NPC.

Стало очень хорошо настроены настройки НПС. Если будет соответствие, это будет отлично, не нужно будет открывать более 10 файлов .json для настройки.

Ну и держитесь там. Как я понял, не все комьюнити восприняли адекватно новый путь развития Madmappers.

Добрый, спасибо за конструктивные вопросы. Был бы признателен, если вы еще больше уточните то, о чем упомянули и отправили свои файлы, я лично протестирую ваши слова и при подтверждении будем искать способы исправления.

1) Уточните, пожалуйста, что такое имена с коробкой?

2, 3) Но так же хочу от себя прояснить некоторые моменты, в частности их поведения. Ранее, если не ошибаюсь, НПЦ из NpcSpawn не имели функционала увеличения длительности спрея на короткой дистанции, который всё это время был у стандартных НПЦ (  это легко проверить, заспавните через F1 любого стандартного НПЦ и сравните его стрельбу на дистанции больше 10 метров и меньше, например: spawn scientistnpc_oilrig ), так же у них была молниеносная реакция, из-за которой при подходе к НПЦ сзади он мог начать стрелять буквально затылком (это мало связано с тем, о чём вы упомянули, но всё таки), так же была ошибка в условии, которое отвечало за их "движение", под движением я подразумеваю выбор между приседанием, движением, стрельбой и возможно чем-то еще каждые сколько то секунд, это тоже пришло в норму. Этим я хотел сказать только то, что добавлено как много улучшений, так и много исправлений, и то, к чему мы все привыкли, может казаться чем-то неправильным, что на самом деле наоборот.

4) Про мультиязычность GUI я с вами от части согласен, но русский текст может не уместиться везде, возможно в будущем это будет добавлено, но обещать не могу, и на самом деле, там не так много незнакомых слов, на мой взгляд, как минимум к ним быстро привыкаешь.

Спасибо еще раз

1 hour ago, Bear Grills said:

Can we get some context of the "Mandatory update"

Nothing global, but mandatory, if desired, you will find these changes on your own, but this is just for your curiosity. Don't get me wrong.

6 minutes ago, LoneWolf71 said:

Thanks, I didn't know we needed to config it, I figured it just does its thing with all the events I have.  Is there more I should do?  And what happens when Adem takes Lootmanager away?  Tnx

First of all, I'm sorry, I didn't specify, at the moment it can only be configured for BetterNpc, because at the moment only BetterNpc uses NpcSpawn presets, which appeared in it after the update to 3.0.0. If you don't use BetterNpc, then at the moment you really have nothing to configure.

After the release of the update, which removes the dependency on LootManager, the loot settings for NpcSpawn presets will be configured via the NpcSpawn GUI (/preset) and stored in preset files (data/NpcSpawn/Preset/), but those who wish will still be able to change it in files using text editors.

21 minutes ago, aimacak said:

Nothing global, but mandatory, if desired, you will find these changes on your own, but this is just for your curiosity. Don't get me wrong.

First of all, I'm sorry, I didn't specify, at the moment it can only be configured for BetterNpc, because at the moment only BetterNpc uses NpcSpawn presets, which appeared in it after the update to 3.0.0. If you don't use BetterNpc, then at the moment you really have nothing to configure.

After the release of the update, which removes the dependency on LootManager, the loot settings for NpcSpawn presets will be configured via the NpcSpawn GUI (/preset) and stored in preset files (data/NpcSpawn/Preset/), but those who wish will still be able to change it in files using text editors.

I don't know why people are giving you a hard time, I for one thank you.  So i assume when lootmanager is gone, we can use our own loottable editors to do the rest huh?  Thanks again. 

23 minutes ago, aimacak said:

Nothing global, but mandatory, if desired, you will find these changes on your own, but this is just for your curiosity. Don't get me wrong.

First of all, I'm sorry, I didn't specify, at the moment it can only be configured for BetterNpc, because at the moment only BetterNpc uses NpcSpawn presets, which appeared in it after the update to 3.0.0. If you don't use BetterNpc, then at the moment you really have nothing to configure.

After the release of the update, which removes the dependency on LootManager, the loot settings for NpcSpawn presets will be configured via the NpcSpawn GUI (/preset) and stored in preset files (data/NpcSpawn/Preset/), but those who wish will still be able to change it in files using text editors.

Also, I do have betterNPC, I am just not using it at the moment.  I may later for sure.  

20 minutes ago, LoneWolf71 said:

I don't know why people are giving you a hard time, I for one thank you.  So i assume when lootmanager is gone, we can use our own loottable editors to do the rest huh?  Thanks again. 

Thanks.
What exactly do you mean by your loot table editors? Other plugins like AlphaLoot, Loot Table, Custom Loot or something else?

41 minutes ago, aimacak said:

Thanks.
What exactly do you mean by your loot table editors? Other plugins like AlphaLoot, Loot Table, Custom Loot or something else?

i USE THIS: 

I would assume that will work for loot on NPCs, crates, barrels and such.  

13 minutes ago, LoneWolf71 said:

i USE THIS: 

I would assume that will work for loot on NPCs, crates, barrels and such.  

As far as I know, you have had this opportunity since the creation of Loot Manager, you just need to select the appropriate parameters in the Loot Manager settings and specify the name of the loot table, or completely disable any Loot Manager intervention. Unfortunately, your question proves that many people really thought that Loot Manager was an analog of the plugin that you specified and other plugins for setting up loot on the server, but this is not the case
Loot Manager, if you like, is a query optimizer for filling crates and NPCs with loot at events, and recently the time of the NPC from NpcSpawn. If you are interested in learning more, you can see the explanation in my review on NpcSpawn, probably with some errors, but it does not change the basic essence. 

27 minutes ago, aimacak said:

As far as I know, you have had this opportunity since the creation of Loot Manager, you just need to select the appropriate parameters in the Loot Manager settings and specify the name of the loot table, or completely disable any Loot Manager intervention. Unfortunately, your question proves that many people really thought that Loot Manager was an analog of the plugin that you specified and other plugins for setting up loot on the server, but this is not the case
Loot Manager, if you like, is a query optimizer for filling crates and NPCs with loot at events, and recently the time of the NPC from NpcSpawn. If you are interested in learning more, you can see the explanation in my review on NpcSpawn, probably with some errors, but it does not change the basic essence. 

All I know it is populates the things I want it to, and I let NPCspawn and lootmanager take care of the plugin parts.  I like lootmanager and wish Adem would keep it.  But i think my loottable plugin will be able to do the work after all of this is settled.  It's a damn fine plugin