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Payout System (ATMConvert) 1.8.9

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COSMO

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Im confused i think. How do you make money with this? It just seems like lose money. 

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MK_

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It's part of Marketing, players will keep on playing and grinding. In return you are paying them and making them grind more and invite more people to make the community active. 

Also the rate is configurable. So let's say for example for VIP users, they will pay to have cash out faster than the default. If the rate is properly set, then they will earn at the right amount utilizing the whole month of their VIP status, either they utilize their VIP time properly or not. Your server will earn more as more people right now are aiming for play to earn, also they are now competitive that they will be forced to but VIP status just to speed up their way to cash out.

MK_

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Another measure here is, if more players, it will be hard for them to cash out. Why? because there will be more raiding and griefing. As you can see there is timer upon initializing cash out command. It is also configurable, let's say 5 minutes and it's being broadcasted to whole map letting other players that there is a player trying to cash out. Then they will go in that place to grief and raid the player resulting to thrill gameplay and they cash will drop. 

COSMO

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I think I understand. The point is to pay people to play. Thank you for the explanation best of luck!

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MK_

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No problem :). Again it's up to you on how difficult the player can cash out depending on the configuration of the plugin you set. 

Flammable

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I was surprised today when I saw you made this plugin @MK_
I had this idea in my head in 2017/2018 and asked one developer if something could be done. Players will earn points per activity and then cash out. I was desperately trying to make the only one server in my country populated (sounds easy if there are no other servers but trust me it's not) and I saw this as the only juicy option... Directly pay your players to play. While thinking about the score points, I ended up seeing even 0.1 (a cent for doing activity) OP because players will be able to abuse it somehow or just play fair, farm a lot of the points, and as an owner you can potentially bankrupt. Also, I remember Dev told me PayPal fees apply as well and I'll lose on fees too. Is this the case with your plugin? Does paypal fees apply? Are the funds sent to Friends and Family? I'm about to buy this plugin but first I'll have to calculate the possible cost and maybe thanks to your flexible configuration I can give in-game currency only for the top endgame rare activities.

Also, I hope the whole setup doesn't involve a PP business account and players can't simply withdraw your entire balance by playing. Is there a monthly limit or something?
Ex: Your PP balance is 1500$ and 20 players play each month, then they withdraw their earned currency and eventually your PayPal balance ends up 0.

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MK_

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Hi, thanks for the comment, to answer your question, yes, in my Plugin, the paypal fee is already convered and deducted to the player's final earned amount. This will eliminate your worries of paying the fee for every payout they made. Everything is configurable even the rate conversion of economics, scraps, or rust cash to USD. So everything is in the hands of server owner. 
 

this plugin will enhance pvp, griefing and raiding. I also suggest that put only 1 point of interest (atm machine) so that when an attempt to cash out, and once it is broadcasted to the whole map. Players will go in the point of interest place to grief the llayer making it so hard to cash out. As you can also configure the timer the player needs to be close to the machine before cash out is done.

MK_

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You can configure the limit in your paypal account as well. And also, you can make it for approval for every cash out, so you will have control before player can cahs out and not abusing the system

s3lphctr1

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I like this idea, but I see 1 problem with using PayPal. If someone does a charge back, the server owner is charged 15 bucks from PayPal. 

COSMO

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6 hours ago, s3lphctr1 said:

I like this idea, but I see 1 problem with using PayPal. If someone does a charge back, the server owner is charged 15 bucks from PayPal. 

Chargebacks only for purchases made this you just give money to people

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s3lphctr1

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Hmm, so the other way then, server owner causes charge backs on players they don't like.

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MK_

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19 hours ago, COSMO said:

Chargebacks only for purchases made this you just give money to people

Correct! And the server owner only has the right to charge back the payout, if the player did something suspicious or cheating, the server owner can refund back the payout thus removing the player's payout and no loss on server owner

MK_

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Btw, you can test it in your own server once you purchased the plugin, while it is on sale until Oct. 10

s3lphctr1

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On 10/7/2024 at 2:30 AM, MK_ said:

Correct! And the server owner only has the right to charge back the payout, if the player did something suspicious or cheating, the server owner can refund back the payout thus removing the player's payout and no loss on server owner

Right but a charge back, either way, incurs a 15 dollar fee to the receiver of said payment. So say a server owner doesn't like someone, the server owner sends this person 1 dollar, after player receives 1 dollar sender files charge back dispute and gets 1 dollar back, receiver gets charged 15 dollar fee for charge back. Happens on twitch all the time. 

MK_

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15 hours ago, s3lphctr1 said:

Right but a charge back, either way, incurs a 15 dollar fee to the receiver of said payment. So say a server owner doesn't like someone, the server owner sends this person 1 dollar, after player receives 1 dollar sender files charge back dispute and gets 1 dollar back, receiver gets charged 15 dollar fee for charge back. Happens on twitch all the time. 

No, we already tried this and we doesn't have chargeback fee if the dispute is proven correctly. Also if there are charges, it depends on country. You can also set a manual transfer for this plugin instead of using Payout feature of Paypal, this will give you more control before letting a player accept his payout. Pending payouts will be listed in the file generated by the plugin and can also show in notification via discord channel.

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