Our stance on AI-generated content

[Papi Rusty]

I believe it is acceptable to use AI for writing text-based content, but not for developing plugins. As for images, their presence on this platform is ultimately determined by the platform owners. Personally, I find them to appear somewhat unconventional. 

[Sigilo]

I don't really have much trouble writing in English, but sometimes it really helps me to order my ideas in my second language or translating something written in my native Spanish.
I don't use it often, just when I want to make a point clear with the correct use of words.
I'm sorry if I made you feel like you were communicating with a machine, I will avoid it here, even if the message can get a little bit lost in translation sometimes.

[Stampy]

3 minutes ago, Papi Rusty said:

I believe it is acceptable to use AI for writing text-based content, but not for developing plugins. As for images, their presence on this platform is ultimately determined by the platform owners. Personally, I find them to appear somewhat unconventional. 

why not for developing plugins?

[Death]

4 minutes ago, Stampy said:

why not for developing plugins?

I think they mean in the context of selling plugins made by AI. But generally speaking, I would not be using plugins made entirely by AI. It even warns you not to, and I don't think it'll ever get to the point where it would be advisable. The code is usually quite dangerous imo

[Stampy]

2 minutes ago, Death said:

I think they mean in the context of selling plugins made by AI. But generally speaking, I would not be using plugins made entirely by AI. It even warns you not to, and I don't think it'll ever get to the point where it would be advisable. The code is usually quite dangerous imo

Yeah not fully developing with AI but they can help along the way but i do think your wrong by saying you "and I don't think it'll ever get to the point where it would be advisable." cause AI is getting there slower than it should be but it is getting there.

[CupsOhJoe]

AI is useful if you get stuck, but shouldn't be relied on to create the full plugin (I mean, I guess it can make complete smallish non complex plugin, but why). As I learn more and more, i have noticed the less reliance on AI to help, it's just as easy to ask your follow developers for assistance. They probably will have better and more efficient ways, AI will most likely just spit out code it thinks is correct unless you are paying for it, but again if you pay $200+ (who the hell has that monthly) for AI to create plugins what's the point, just pay another dev to do it at least you would be contributing to that developer..

[Stampy]

2 minutes ago, CupsOhJoe said:

AI is useful if you get stuck, but shouldn't be relied on to create the full plugin (I mean, I guess it can make complete smallish non complex plugin, but why). As I learn more and more, i have noticed the less reliance on AI to help, it's just as easy to ask your follow developers for assistance. They probably will have better and more efficient ways, AI will most likely just spit out code it thinks is correct unless you are paying for it, but again if you pay $200+ (who the hell has that monthly) for AI to create plugins what's the point, just pay another dev to do it at least you would be contributing to that developer..

lol i wana know which AI cost $200 hahaha  

[CupsOhJoe]

2 minutes ago, Stampy said:

lol i wana know which AI cost $200 hahaha  

I'm assuming that the free or cheap versions aren't going to get you much luck in making good plugins. ChatGPT is 200 a month, Gemini Code Assist is like 23 per use, at the point you pay this much why even bother.

[Stampy]

3 minutes ago, CupsOhJoe said:

I'm assuming that the free or cheap versions aren't going to get you much luck in making good plugins. ChatGPT is 200 a month, Gemini Code Assist is like 23 per use, at the point you pay this much why even bother.

hahaha no no no if your paying $200 for chatgpt your doing it wrong plus that AI can not make a plugin to save its self its rubbish 

[CupsOhJoe]

Just now, Stampy said:

hahaha no no no if your paying $200 for chatgpt your doing it wrong plus that AI can not make a plugin to save its self its rubbish 

Ok really concerned you know that

[Stampy]

Just now, CupsOhJoe said:

Ok really concerned you know that

lol why i dont make plugins i make maps and no not by AI all hand made. so why would you be concerned?

[CupsOhJoe]

@Death wondering if the poll questions should be "Do you agree with us rejecting FULLY AI-generated submissions?"

 

[Stampy]

4 minutes ago, CupsOhJoe said:

@Death wondering if the poll questions should be "Do you agree with us rejecting FULLY AI-generated submissions?"

 

i agree lol makes it a bit more clear

[mainloot]

I think the problem here isn't that there's a particular stance on AI-generated content, it's that you make claims that submissions are AI generated without providing any proof. There's a lack of transparency here in how you determine these things. I submitted a tiny script and it was rejected based off opinions that I used AI to write it. I took code from the person that made this claim against me, and I got AI to say their code was AI generated. The whole process of determining AI content is BS in general. And you're probably using AI to determine if it's AI which makes it even dumber. 

[Death]

41 minutes ago, mainloot said:

I think the problem here isn't that there's a particular stance on AI-generated content, it's that you make claims that submissions are AI generated without providing any proof. There's a lack of transparency here in how you determine these things. I submitted a tiny script and it was rejected based off opinions that I used AI to write it. I took code from the person that made this claim against me, and I got AI to say their code was AI generated. The whole process of determining AI content is BS in general. And you're probably using AI to determine if it's AI which makes it even dumber. 

AI code is pretty easy to identify if you know what you're looking for, and no, we do not use AI for code detection. In cases we're unsure we invite you to join a conference so we can make sure you understand the code by asking basic questions about it over voice so you can't just AI the awnsers. 

[mainloot]

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AI code is pretty easy to identify if you know what you're looking for

 

BS. If it were, y'all would be more transparent about it. As a senior SRE who works at publicly traded companies / big ol' enterprises in silicon valley, these false ideas of AI are pretty laughable, man. Wish you guys luck though. 

Edited March 21 by mainloot

[Death]

2 hours ago, mainloot said:

 

BS. If it were, y'all would be more transparent about it. As a senior SRE who works at publicly traded companies / big ol' enterprises in silicon valley, these false ideas of AI are pretty laughable, man. Wish you guys luck though. 

More than happy to jump in a voice call with you to prove our process is quite effective. 

[Death]

On 3/20/2025 at 5:26 PM, CupsOhJoe said:

@Death wondering if the poll questions should be "Do you agree with us rejecting FULLY AI-generated submissions?"

 

I think most understood this, and it's a bit too late now. I have made it so you can change your vote now. 

[mainloot]

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More than happy to jump in a voice call with you to prove our process is quite effective

The reason you want me to go into a private/voice call is because you don't have any real methodologies or processes that are legit. You would openly discuss them here if you did. Your guys' method is "trust me bro"

 

edit: to be honest, I would be more concerned about the code quality than the use of AI. See WelcomePanel line 1500. That line is 27,000 (yes, twenty seven thousand lol) characters long. I know you guys are looking at bad code all day long, but just because someone follows best practices, doesn't mean they're using AI. Nor does it mean you have a repeatable process, let alone standards and methodologies, you guys are willing to share (highly sus). I have it in writing that you guys "think" my submission was written using AI (see attached image).

So which one is it? Do you or do you not disclose these methods? Because if you don't, they can't be take seriously. 

 

Edited March 22 by mainloot

[Death]

4 hours ago, mainloot said:

The reason you want me to go into a private/voice call is because you don't have any real methodologies or processes that are legit. You would openly discuss them here if you did. Your guys' method is "trust me bro"

Ah yes, let us just publish a cheat sheet to feed chatgpt to bypass detection. What a perfectly logical approach.

 

Again, if you think it was a bad call the invitation to join us in a voice call to prove us wrong is still on the table, but I have a sneaky suspicion this won't happen.  

[mainloot]

22 minutes ago, Death said:

Ah yes, let us just publish a cheat sheet to feed chatgpt to bypass detection. What a perfectly logical approach.

 

Again, if you think it was a bad call the invitation to join us in a voice call to prove us wrong is still on the table, but I have a sneaky suspicion this won't happen.  

nah man, I think you should start a company that can tell the difference between human generated and ai generated content. You'd probably make billions  just 5 people in a room making decisions

[Lizard_King]

Depuis la nuit des temps l'être humain a eu peur du nouveau . Mais l'évolution est présente et l'intéligence artificiel fait parti de se phénomène tout comme les robot qui on remplacé les travailleurs de nos usines . Donc non je ne cracherais pas sur le future de l'informatique les plugins fait par  ai sont très utile a notre développement .///// Since the dawn of time human beings have been afraid of the new . But evolution is present and artificial iuntéligence is part of the phenomenon, as are robots which replace workers in our factories . So no I would not spit on the future of computing plugins made by ai are very useful to our development .

[Death]

2 hours ago, mainloot said:

nah man, I think you should start a company that can tell the difference between human generated and ai generated content. You'd probably make billions  just 5 people in a room making decisions

Identifying AI generated code is not as trivial as you think it is. It's quite easy and I'll bet even the most intermediate programmer can easily identify it. It's very predictable. 

[Lincoln]

As entertaining as this thread is, can we lock it down now?  I think we know most people's stance on it. 

Otherwise, how do I turn off notifications for it? 

Updated: Found the unfollow button, cheers~

Edited March 23 by Lincoln

[mainloot]

1 hour ago, Death said:

Identifying AI generated code is not as trivial as you think it is. It's quite easy...

this doesn't make sense. If it's not trivial, it's not easy. How are you gonna tell me what's ai generated when you don't even know words.