NPC's not moving

We started the wave, and three Chinooks arrived, dropping off the scientists. However, the scientists hovered in the air for a while and stayed clustered on the helipad, instead of descending the stairs and attacking as they used to.

This is not part of plugin. Ive seen certain seeds that does this . Or plugins like admin chinook . But this is not bc of this plugin

Changed Status from Pending to No Response

On 1/3/2025 at 8:14 PM, NooBlet said:

This is not part of plugin. Ive seen certain seeds that does this . Or plugins like admin chinook . But this is not bc of this plugin

I am having a similar problem.
The NPC is not moving, it is standing still.
 

again  this plugin does not controlling npc's  . please check in your console these 2 convars

ai.think 

ai.move 

and then provide list of all current plugins . map seed and oxide version

01/14 14:06:38 | ai.think: "True"

01/14 14:06:55 | ai.move: "True"

Oxide : 2.0.6348 

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Map seed ?

and does the npc move if wave is not activated ? (normal oilrig crate hack)

シード:13825

NPC is working normally without this plugin

all this plugin does is calling more chinooks so if working normal without plugin it must work correct with wave ... map size? so i can test seed

That's strange.
As long as you don't run events with this plugin, it will be normal NPC movement.
The NPC will always stack during the event.

Size is 4500.

im going to load that map quick and check

maybe a silly question..... with betternpc . are changing the aperance of the npc . if so . can i see your config and data file of betternpc that pertain to Ch47

Configuration and data files.

BetterNpc.zip BetterNpc.json

ok so its the seed ... in test server with your seed and size and the heavyrigplugin not loaded . small oil ch48 npc dont move from spawn . but do in large .... with plugin loaded large all moves with event or not .. so this is not plugin its the map seed that has a nav mesh issue at small oil rig . i did record all the test if you need it

Sorry for my ignorance. I thought that since we were using a custom map, there was no need to change the seed.
So you are saying that even with a custom map, changing the seed will solve the problem?

no .... you did not say custom map ..... the seed and size is to get the exact map to reproduce the issue ... custom map is different .. that means there is something else going on with the npc nav spawn that could be the issue . 

so now the question is . is the oilrig the exact same as normal rust . or did the dev of that map changed it

How can we solve the problem?

Oil rigs were the same as normal.

you need to reach out to the map dev . and ask what is different to proc map oilrig and his . .. like i said before . all this plugin does is hacking extra crate  . so there is no control(from pluginside) with the npc . thats all on facepunch side . and on this case the map

2 minutes ago, K9N_Twitch said:

Oil rigs were the same as normal.

how do you know?    . id the map bounds correct for the rigs . is it a prefab from latest rust , is the prefab constraints correct ..... i dont create maps . i just make plugins . so i can show you in normal rust the plugin works ... and as i said . because i dont know what makes the oilrig different in a custom map i cant preproduce this issue . or even know how to fix it 

It does not mean a custom oil rig, but rather the same look and feel as a regular oil rig.
I'll check with the developer to see if there is a difference.